The Bible Verse Christians Wish Never Existed | Hashim | Speakers Corner

Jesus's Teaching on the True God [00:00]

• The speaker repeatedly asks about who Jesus identifies as the "only true God."
• The response given is that Jesus states "he is one father."
• The speaker asserts that the other participant is evading the question because they are a trinitarian and "against Jesus."
• The concept of the Father submitting to the Son is questioned, with the explanation that the Son took on flesh and chose to come as the Son, implying a form of weakness.
• The speaker argues that if God became weak, he cannot be all-powerful and was killed by his own creation, questioning if this is odd.
• The idea of a "suffering servant" prophesied in Isaiah 53 is brought up in relation to Jesus taking on weakness.
• Human sacrifice is called "pagan" and "satanic," with the claim that only satanic cults believe in it.
• The sacrifice of a spotless lamb is identified as Abrahamic, but this is disputed, with the claim that Abraham never sacrificed for sin.

The weak god got killed by his own creation. Do you not find that odd?

The Nature of Sacrifice and Divinity [01:15]

• Human sacrifice is deemed "pagan" and a "satanic ritual."
• It's suggested that only satanic cults are involved in the belief of human sacrifice.
• The sacrifice of the spotless lamb is brought up as Abrahamic, but this is contested.
• The distinction is made that Abraham did not sacrifice for sin, but the concept of a "spotless lamb" is not referring to animals.
• The argument is made that "Abrahamic" must involve Abraham, and cannot simply mean "tradition."
• Animal sacrifices, as described in Leviticus, were for unintentional sins.
• A God who can die by his own creation is questioned, as is a God who worships a greater God than himself.
• The speaker points out that throughout his ministry, Jesus told people to worship only one person as God, contrasting this with the belief in three persons as God.

Actually human sacrifice is never beautiful. It's pagan.

Comparing Belief Systems and Jesus's Claims [02:21]

• A comparison is drawn between the Trinity and the Hindu belief in many gods with one essence, stating the difference is only in numbers.
• The speaker claims Jesus never admitted to being almighty God and always worshipped his Father.
• The claim that Jesus accepted worship is disputed, with the counter-argument that David also accepted worship, implying David should also be God by that logic.
• Jesus's statement, "Before Abraham was, I am," is presented as a claim to divinity.
• The question is posed again: "Whom did Jesus claim to be the only true God?"
• Jesus's words in John 17:3 are quoted: "Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent."
• The speaker challenges the other participant to interpret this verse and asks if they believe the Holy Spirit can interpret it.

So show me where Jesus claimed to be God. Almighty.

Scriptural Interpretation and the Unitarian God [03:33]

• Jesus is presented as claiming to be the only true God.
• John 17:3 is highlighted: "Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent."
• The speaker asks the other participant to interpret what Jesus meant when addressing the Father as the only true God.
• The concept of "Yahweh" is brought up, with the statement that there is no mention of Yahweh in the New Testament.
• The question of who Jesus called his Father is raised, implying a Jewish context.
• The idea that "your God was a Jew" is presented, contrasting with the listener being a Christian.
• Jesus's humanity and divinity are discussed.
• The speaker reiterates the question about Jesus addressing the Father as the only true God and asks if the other participant is for or against it.
• The response is that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are all God.
• Jesus's statement, "I and the Father are one," is brought up, as is "I and the disciples are one."
• The speaker argues that the unity with Jesus and the disciples is through the Holy Spirit.
• The core question is rephrased: When Jesus says the only true God is the Father, are you for or against it?
• The speaker accuses the other of appealing to the triune God while Jesus appeals to the unitarian God.

Jesus says, "I and the disciples are one."

The Father as One Person and Following Jesus [06:07]

• The question is posed: "How many persons is the Father?" The answer given is "one person."
• The distinction between person and essence is noted.
• The speaker asserts that "according to Jesus, only one person."
• Aggressive behavior is noted, and the "victim card" is accused of being played.
• The speaker states they are not there to win, but to represent Christ as an ambassador.
• The argument is made to believe what Christ said, and not go against it, as Jesus said the only true God is the Father, one person, not three.
• The accusation is made that the listener follows the church, not Jesus, because Jesus said to follow his teachings if you love him.
• The church is described as the body of Christ, through which teachings are heard.
• The speaker reiterates that Jesus said to follow him, not the church.
• The question is asked again: When Jesus says the only true God is the Father, why are you going against it?
• The speaker states that the other participant has tried to change the topic multiple times and played the victim card.
• The value of Jesus's words is questioned.
• The speaker asks the other to interpret John 17:3, "The only true God is the father."

Jesus said, "If you love me, follow my teachings."

John 17:3 and Trinitarian Interpretations [07:37]

• John 17:3 is quoted: "The only true God is the father."
• The speaker claims the other participant is going against Jesus without realizing it.
• John 17:3 is described as the "cryptonite of the Christians."
• St. Augustine is mentioned as wanting to change the wording of this verse due to being troubled by it.
• The speaker challenges the other to read John 17:3 and put it in context.
• The passage is read: "This is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent."
• The speaker asks what the other person understands by John 17:3.
• The context of John 17:5 is brought up, which mentions glory Jesus had with the Father before the world began.
• The speaker insists that John 17:5 does not negate John 17:3, and that the only true God is the father, who is one person, not three.
• The question of what Jesus was doing before the world began is raised in relation to John 17:3.
• The speaker again asks who the only true God is according to Jesus, accusing the other of evading the question.

This is eternal life. That they may know you the father the only true God and Jesus Christ whom you have sent.

The Trinity and Following Tradition [10:48]

• The speaker asserts that John 17:5 does not negate the father being the only true God, and that the father is one person, not three.
• The term "trinitarians" is used, and a critique of the crucifix worn by Christians is made, stating Jesus and his disciples never wore them.
• The accusation is made that those who wear crucifixes follow the church, not Jesus.
• The question of whether Jesus wore a crucifix is posed.
• Eating pork is brought up as something Jesus and his disciples did not follow.
• The goal of the discussion is stated as establishing Jesus as a creation of God who worships God the Father, and that the other participant has failed to grasp this.
• The question of willingness to change one's mind is asked.
• The speaker states they will never change the truth to falsehood, and the listener will stick to falsehood, even if Jesus himself stated the Father is the only true God, one person, not three.

You twoarians got the crucifixion. Sorry. The crucifix that you wear around your neck from the church.

Love of Christ and Divine Forgiveness [12:30]

• The speaker expresses love for the other participant and a desire to share the love of Christ.
• The definition of "love of Christ" is questioned, with the explanation that it refers to what God did on the cross, dying for us.
• The speaker states they do not want any part of human sacrifice, linking it to pagan and satanic beliefs.
• A parable from Jesus about joy in heaven for one sinner who repents is discussed.
• The speaker interprets the parable to mean God is merciful, kind, and loving, and will forgive if one repents sincerely.
• The 99 who do not need repentance are interpreted as those who don't realize they need salvation.
• The speaker accuses the other of adding words to the scripture like a Pharisee and twisting passages.
• The contrast is made between interpreting scripture and twisting it by adding extra bits.
• The speaker uses the example of twisting the passage about the only true God being the Father by adding "the father, son, and the holy spirit is the true god."

There is joy in heaven for one sinner who repents than over 99 righteous persons who need no repentance.

Interpretation vs. Twisting Scripture [15:16]

• The speaker claims to read the passage as it is, unlike the other, who they accuse of adding words and twisting scripture, like the Pharisees.
• The definition of twisting scripture is presented as adding extra bits that are not meant to be there.
• The example of twisting the passage about the only true God being the Father is given, by adding the Trinity.
• Luke 15 is cited as the relevant passage.
• The speaker asserts that interpreting scripture is allowed as long as it's not twisted.
• The difference between interpretation and twisting is highlighted, with the speaker believing some passages are clear and should not be altered.
• The speaker reiterates that the Father is the only true God and not three persons.
• The question of whether human sacrifice is necessary for forgiveness is posed.
• The speaker states their God can forgive without human sacrifice, highlighting this as a difference between their belief and "false gods."

When you add extra bits in there which are not meant to be.

The Parable of the Lost Sheep and Repentance [17:59]

• The speaker reads Luke 15:7: "I tell you that in the same way there will be more rejoicing in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who do not need repentance."
• The question is posed: "Which individual from human beings require no repentance?"
• The response is "No one" except Christ.
• The speaker questions why Jesus would say this if everyone needs repentance.
• The interpretation is that Jesus is teaching that there are those who do not know they need repentance.
• The speaker insists Jesus is saying they need no repentance, which is interpreted as twisting the passage.
• The speaker states that Jesus is telling them there can be more than one sinless person, unless Jesus is lying.
• The speaker accuses the other of twisting scripture like the Pharisees.
• The difference between interpretation and twisting is re-emphasized.
• The possibility of being forgiven without a human sacrifice is affirmed.

My God can forgive without human sacrifice. Wow.